Subject	You'll need to mesure the i.d. of the inlet/outlet ports
Posted by	Ash's Z on December 10, 2010 at 12:00 PM
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In Reply To	I'll post a pic of mine when I get home. I got them used posted by BigTDogg (MA) on December 10, 2010 at 11:22 AM
Message	to get a good idea. The main restriction to flow with sidemount intercoolers is the area of the i.d. of the inlet's and outlets. Our Sport-SMICs used 0.065" wall thickness tubing with an i.d. of 1.87". If you have the cast endtanks with the integral IO pipes, the wall thickness of a casting is significantly thicker, leading to a smaller i.d. of the port. If this is the case with yours, the flow will be less than our Sport-SMICs. Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
Follow Ups	Im going to be upgrading to Ashspec Massives - Nis300owner 00:30:26 12/10/10 I believe SZ can modify the stillens to 2.5 in and out maybe - 5280Z_nightstalker 00:38:31 12/10/10 they can but they wont be as thick as the massives - Nis300owner 00:44:16 12/10/10 Just throwing it out their as a cheaper alternative. - 5280Z_nightstalker 00:54:31 12/10/10 Waves magic wand..... - SeanK (StL) 01:29:20 12/10/10 damn (n/m) - blackomega 01:37:16 12/10/10 I knew that graph was around but I didnt notice they did - 5280Z_nightstalker 01:41:21 12/10/10 I'll do you one better. - ZiNnYc 03:43:24 12/10/10 Good link. (n/m) - SimaYi 11:03:59 12/10/10 bookmarked, great info. (n/m) - fantomZ(OH) 13:55:41 12/10/10 Most helpful post from you in over a year... - ni[X]it 16:41:05 12/10/10 kma (n/m) - ZiNnYc 18:45:53 12/10/10 2nd (ni[x]it) (n/m) - CoHPhasor 19:23:39 12/10/10 there is a flaw in that thread regarding crossflow theory - aliaZ 16:54:17 12/10/10 Are the AshSPEC Sport SMICs *essentially* the same - BigTDogg (MA) 07:42:50 12/10/10 IIRC, they were the same until Ash left Z1. Now I think Ash - PiotrC70 08:31:34 12/10/10 Same cores, both cast aluminum endtanks with what look to be - ZiNnYc 08:35:43 12/10/10 Same core, different endtanks. We cast our endtanks but - Ash's Z 11:12:53 12/10/10 I'll post a pic of mine when I get home. I got them used - BigTDogg (MA) 11:22:09 12/10/10 You'll need to mesure the i.d. of the inlet/outlet ports - Ash's Z 12:00:23 12/10/10 I'd like to see what you could do with your 2.5" piping - not4resaleZ 21:23:57 12/10/10 i would definately consider modifying my GReddys because - blackomega 01:28:07 12/10/10 TIG welder, some practice and proper technique and ur good (n/m) - Ted(Snowflake..) 04:33:33 12/10/10 Ash can modify them for you. Link to pics of my modified - Mr.Stacy 05:06:23 12/10/10 Chart above doesn't seem accurate-Greddy's dont look so good - ZXoltan 09:00:46 12/10/10 Ash did the tests. - Woody75 (Denver) 09:32:33 12/10/10 I agree. Would be nice for someone to reproduce and validate - ZXoltan 09:39:26 12/10/10 You could always just have your ICs flowtested by someone - Ash's Z 10:33:53 12/10/10 Q - BigTDogg (MA) 10:59:09 12/10/10 Why don't you test them all at 200 cfm and 15psi or 20psi - not4resaleZ 13:05:58 12/10/10 The power requirement to move that much air - Jim (Selin Design) 13:35:17 12/10/10 The problem with data logging is you would have to block - not4resaleZ 15:30:05 12/10/10 On a dyno pull you wouldn't have - Jim (Selin Design) 17:14:32 12/10/10 Thermodynamically speaking >>>> - Ash's Z 14:17:14 12/10/10 To put it simply, it's not necessary to do this... - LitlElvis 15:07:16 12/10/10 but your engine will only flow about 200 psf max. (n/m) - not4resaleZ 15:34:26 12/10/10 Re: but your engine will only flow about 200 psf max. - not4resaleZ 15:45:40 12/10/10 That looks to be some rendition of a formula for - LitlElvis 16:00:59 12/10/10 I'm sorry, I mean 200 cfm. This is based on the engine - not4resaleZ 16:07:22 12/10/10 Ok, at 7500RPM and 0psi a 3.0L engine moves ~199CFM - LitlElvis 16:40:28 12/10/10 clarification - aliaZ 17:21:22 12/10/10 I know, I should have used "SCFM" instead of "CFM" - LitlElvis 18:16:07 12/10/10 agreed (n/m) - aliaZ 18:21:08 12/10/10 I would describe it as, when the air filter sees 414 cfm - not4resaleZ 17:26:14 12/10/10 This is a standard formula for pressure drop in a pipe. - not4resaleZ 16:04:19 12/10/10 I like bell intercoolers charts. They test cores using a - not4resaleZ 13:21:15 12/10/10 ...I dont think the Bells have aluminum endtanks like the - ZiNnYc 13:35:42 12/10/10 Greddys only flow a bit more than stock. - The Hawk 12:41:10 12/10/10 This is the opposite of anything I have ever heard. (n/m) - blackomega 13:09:44 12/10/10 2nd- although my info comes primarily from TT.net postings (n/m) - ZXoltan 13:44:34 12/10/10 As discussed above, the chart from Ash - The Hawk 19:07:59 12/10/10 Interesting since in empirial testing i found - ztunerz 20:18:54 12/10/10 Ignore the spelling errors-touchscreen sucks (n/m) - ztunerz 21:05:19 12/10/10 False. (n/m) - Only1Z 14:56:10 12/11/10 500 to 700 (n/m) - Dane (Houston) 00:44:37 12/10/10 how would power from .5 inch larger IC piping compare - Rogy 17:57:44 12/10/10 You haven't been paying attention have you? - CoHPhasor 19:54:56 12/10/10 thk you, I just needed a basis for comparison..words instead - Rogy 22:28:47 12/10/10 Hahah! No worries my friend :-D - CoHPhasor 02:11:10 12/11/10
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